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The rip tkos are sweet for sure

Vap Tko 480.. 1 3/8 grime reaper pro

If looking at the 2024 bows, for a short draw like that, it’s going to be hard not to recommend the lift 29.5 as my #1 option, followed by the alpha x 30, then the cores SS in performance setting.

We had some inconsistent results with durability out of those unfortunately.

@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial interesting. Ive worried about this as well but been using em for several years and shot thru elk, whitetail, muleys and antelope. What has happened that you've encountered with the durability, breakage, splintering,etc?

@@C.Adams82mainly just durability after shooting into or through deer. There were several shots in which arrows were snapping in two after shooting through a deer or hitting bone. The individual that had these issues were shooting Easton axis prior to that.

That is a great assumption. However, If you watch my videos, you will know that I did not spend 3k on my setup. And I said in the video I recommended spending your money on making your bow setup more accurate, and less money on trying to make your arrows shoot through a brick wall. I never said anything about buying a cheap setup. Thanks for watching though.

Sweet, thanks for the info. That sounds like a killer setup and proves that it’s not always necessary to shoot 70+ lbs and a heavy arrow setup to kill big animals.

Sounds like some great setups, thanks for sharing that info.

Great way to look at things

Sounds like a great setup

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Great advice

Thank you

@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial Genesis 27 3 is a good one also

@@juanvelasco804 yes it is, that’s the verse I have on my hats.

Just put some wax on the threads. Like string wax

@@wcwcgarner2717 Good idea!

That could be an option. I just don’t feel like blue loctite would do as well with the constant vibration of shooting over and over with the arrows in the quiver. That is not from testing however, so it may work just as good or better.

From what I have seen, it has not changed the straightness of the shaft. Once I change the component, the arrow spins completely straight on the arrow spinner.

MFJJ passed through a buffalo with a mechanical in front of a 402grn arrow

The point is not whether you need a heavy arrow for anything in North America. The point is that to penetrate bone, CONSISTENTLY you need a heavier set up. Not the weight but much rather the FOC helps the most. You can pass through most animals with 400gns or even less. But this set up has a higher failure rate when penettrating bone consistently. Perfect arrow flight, single bevel broadheads, and high FOC 19%+ tend to have a much higher rate of successful pass throughs even when impacting heavier bone. This is all about decreasing failure rate when impacting bone. Arguing that a lighter set up can pass through bone with the same level of success as a heavier, high FOC setup is just factually untrue and silly. Mentally of having it and not needing it, rather than needing it and not having it.

I know that heavier arrows have an advantage when hitting a heavy bone. However, a shoulder blade doesn’t stop a 420 grain arrow at 290 fps. Vertical accuracy is better with a a faster arrow when an animal take a couple steps and sense I don’t aim at heavy bones and animals move often I think it’s a fair trade off to have better vertical accuracy vs maybe being able to penetrate an an elks heavy leg bone. Also I believe an elk has higher chance of survival if it in a leg bone than with a heavy arrow.

The reality is this, you can build two arrows of differing weights, give them the same KE and different momentums, and they will penetrate the same. Take two more arrows, give them the same momentum and differing KEs, and the one with the higher KE will out penetrate the other. Speed matters, and is absolutely relevant in penetration. But so is shot placement and sharp broadheads, and a well tuned bow. I do like some FOC, 14% is usually what I find good, but there are also tests out there that disprove its importance with compound bows and penetration. If we were shooting stick bows, at dead animals, that barely broke 200fps, a heavier arrow would be important, because we would be entirely depending on weight for KE. But with modern compounds, I can usually get a 460gr arrow cruising at 290fps, and that is the best of both worlds with a sharp broadhead, and the bow tuned well.

Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I don’t think it is recognized enough for how great it is. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Maybe I’m wrong but I get the vibe that in some manner he’s saying his ideas and setup is the only acceptable way!

I feel like I have noticed the same results. Thank you for watching and commenting.

The exodus is definitely not recognized enough for how good it is. Great arrow weight. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Thank you. Same to you as well.

From the testing that I’ve done, just because a bow shoots a 440gr arrow at a certain speed, does not mean it will translate to a heavier or lighter arrow in the same ratio. For example, Hoyt tends to shoot a heavier arrow better while still maintaining more speed. Thank you for taking the time to comment. It is always good to see other people’s input.

@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial while that’s true I’m not really sure how that has anything to do with what I’ve said about all the speeds. Dont care for the guy MFJJ but if you watch his speed test the Mach 30 is 4fps faster than the lift 29.5 when set up identical and still has over 1/4” measured shorter draw.

It applies to your statement about speeds because you used speeds shot with a 440gr arrow to calculate a projected ibo. Projected ibo is not the same as shooting the bow with a 350gr arrow, which I have done with both bows that you referenced. The numbers for both the lift and the Mach 30 are recorded in the videos. The Mach 30 did draw less weight, which I said in the video would contribute to slightly slower speeds, but when the bow is to spec, I’m not going to put a bow out of spec to try to get it to pull more weight or shoot faster.

@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial if it didn’t make weight it wasn’t in spec as that’s one of the specs. ATA and brace is An average number of all the bows made it has a variance. You also didn’t account for DL difference either. When tested apples to apples tour numbers are way off. Not taking anything from what you’re doing don’t take it the wrong way. Again refer to MFJJ video where the same scales and arrows are being used and the actual DL is measure and you’ll see the results I posted are number for number accurate.

Draw weight is not a reflection of a bow being in spec. If it were, then most bows would not come in drawing an average of 72lbs when they are 70# bows. Axle to axle and brace height are measured on all the bows I test. They are shot through the same chrono, with the same arrows. And in this case the draw length of the mach 30 did measure the same as the lift. I have however had other bows that did measure shorter or longer, just not in this instance. On my scoring sheet the speed scores have a range in which a bow gets a certain score for its speed. So a bow could be slightly slower or faster than another and still get the same score.

That was my fault, I did not have the base tight on the bench.

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It surprised me for sure.

Every bow needs a bow press to be tuned.

@@jwild5360 I use non-compound bows, so huge negative for me. So much so that I will probably not buy a compound. I'll wait for someone to come up with a design that doesn't need a press.

Both are amazing bows, and will feel like quite an upgrade to your current setup. The no cam was a great bow, but no comparison to either of the bows in this video. With that said, I would still pick the Lift. I have shot the lift since April and have not had any issues. The one thing I will is, is that the bows that have had issues, seem to be in the longer draw lengths with 70 + lbs. I am shooting 27” draw with 76# and have not had any issues. My lift has been the best bow I’ve owned.

Thanks for watching!

I’m almost positive it is buckskin strings with buckskin serving.

@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial thank you!

@@stephensheldon8396 I don’t think anyone is really worried about hand shock and vibration. It is just another variable that can be used to compare bows. Also generally speaking, the vibration goes hand in hand with how quiet a bow is.

Garmin fenix 7. I got it used for $150.00 haha

@@BuffaloCreekOutdoorsOfficial damn thats cheap lol

@@Loss8131 actually I told you wrong. It is a tactics delta. Which I’m pretty sure is almost the same thing as the fenix 7.

It is impressive for sure

Tan with tan serving. Straight from Mathews.

That’s wild. I have heard the horror stories of limbs cracking. I hate to hear that yours was an issue. As of the last conversation between Mathews and Grafton, they are saying that it is an issue in less than 1% of the lifts.

They made it right They are replacing all 3 on mine and my sons lifts with Custom bows

So far the lift 29.5 was faster. And several others were within 2 or 3 fps.

Thanks, but the bows i shot were not close at 30 inch performance not even mathews 😅

@@ericrachal-hi9hy I also shoot all these bows at 30”. If you go to the link in my description, I have all the score lists with the speeds from all the bows I’ve tested. You can compare them there if you would like. If I’m not mistaken, I recorded the speeds in comfort for the bowtech, but after shooting them in performance, the speeds we roughly 10fps faster than comfort at all draw lengths. Hope this helps.

Yes that makes sense, because when shooting that bow in performance it shot a 350 grain arrow over 340 fps ....you should put fps in comfort and performance on your bow review... Thanks good job...

I went with the .1 pin

Grips are all about personal preference for sure.